yeah. . . I'm learning but unlike renegades i'm trying to run this group with a lot of people and sometimes it will take some time cause i'm not full admin sooooooo i gotta wait until tomorrow until i can upgrade to full admin privillages and then hopefully HOPEFULLY this group can take off, but if you feel like you don't want to be in this group, you don't have to be, and plus unlike Veronica i check dev a ton